tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post149727080415645951..comments2024-03-28T10:34:18.365-07:00Comments on The Vulgar Curmudgeon: Not Something You Hear Every DayPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15695733883033137146noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-65216219282902272762014-04-10T08:27:14.409-07:002014-04-10T08:27:14.409-07:00Agreed. I once had a customer who came in for a r...Agreed. I once had a customer who came in for a routine tuneup and the belt jumped while we were in the midst of it. Fortunately she believed us, I guess, but wasn't exactly a happy camper.Brock Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11404173139501539265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-4103425442348310642014-04-10T00:47:15.272-07:002014-04-10T00:47:15.272-07:00From the top of the picture down,
Camshaft pulley
...From the top of the picture down,<br />Camshaft pulley<br /><br />Timing belt tensioner<br /><br />Water pump pulley.<br /><br />Water pump is behind belt and the tensioner bolts to it.<br /><br />This thing had a timing belt put on it several years ago, not long after my wife bought it and before we hooked back up.<br />I have known her for thirty years.<br /><br />Anyways.<br /><br />The thing has 230,000 miles on it and as far as I know, that was the original water pump.<br /><br />She wanted to argue with me about changing it when I did the belt and I put my foot down.<br /><br />I ain't doing this twice, end of conversation, I don't care how much more it costs.<br /><br />Sure as I live and breathe, that thing would have went out in the next couple of months and I would have blown a gasket.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15695733883033137146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-7091551837952082702014-04-10T00:00:40.343-07:002014-04-10T00:00:40.343-07:00Hard to tell. With my Aspire it was easy, the wate...Hard to tell. With my Aspire it was easy, the water pump looked like, well, a water pump, except it had a longer shaft than usual coming out the front so it could be driven by the accessory belt despite being buried behind the timing belt. I don't see that longer shaft on this thing but what the fuck, it's a photo from a lousy angle on a blog, I'm sure Busted will tell us what's what soon :).<br />BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-39521201027035693052014-04-09T20:57:52.536-07:002014-04-09T20:57:52.536-07:00Agreed, but glancing at the motor I thought the wa...Agreed, but glancing at the motor I thought the water pump would have been behind.Brock Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11404173139501539265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-90563847449496661762014-04-09T20:09:08.703-07:002014-04-09T20:09:08.703-07:00a) On some cars you have to take off the water pum...a) On some cars you have to take off the water pump to get to the timing belt, and if you're going to do that, might as well replace it since it's not going to last more than another 30-40k miles longer than a belt anyhow and when they go they usually take out the accessory drive belt,<br />b) On some cars the water pump is *behind* the timing belt, and if you don't replace it at the same time you replace the timing belt, you're going to have to take the timing belt off *again* in 30-40K miles, so might as well replace it while you got the car apart, and finally,<br />c) water pumps are usually pretty cheap, so why not?<br /><br />The only car I've ever owned with a timing belt was a Ford Aspire, and the water pump is buried *BEHIND* the timing belt on that POS. Damn straight that I changed the water pump at that time, because it was a PITA to get in there (transverse engine, front of engine about 1" from wheel well) and doing that job *twice* to change a water pump that was bound to go out within the next 40,000 miles (they only last around 120,000 miles in my experience) was something I wasn't interested in doing. <br />BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-13245612161498437352014-04-09T19:11:40.391-07:002014-04-09T19:11:40.391-07:00Why did you replace the water pump? Why did you replace the water pump? Brock Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11404173139501539265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-58305338044939977722014-04-08T14:49:57.823-07:002014-04-08T14:49:57.823-07:00Drive belts are also bulkier, don't last as lo...Drive belts are also bulkier, don't last as long as chains, and can be destroyed by various chemicals used around an engine compartment. They are completely incompatible with Cretinus Americanus, the common American cretin, a.k.a. typical American car owner, who is only barely capable of taking the car in to the Goofy Loob once every couple of years to have the sludge changed, and knows nothing about a belt (what, you expect he has read the owner's manual?). I have encountered way too many engines destroyed by drive belts and interference valves.<br /><br />And in case you didn't get the picture, I *didn't* buy a car with an engine that used a belt drive. And won't. A chain will last the life of the engine, typically. You replace it when you rebuild the engine, just to do it. A drive belt... not so much.BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-54864020803188253232014-04-08T13:54:46.975-07:002014-04-08T13:54:46.975-07:00There's nothing wrong with using a properly de...There's nothing wrong with using a properly designed and sized reinforced rubber belt for driving camshafts.<br /><br />They're quieter, don't need an oil bath to run in, and are capable of lasting 100,000 miles.<br /><br />The belt in my Supra has 165,000 miles on it, and while it still looks OK, I'll be replacing it as it's on the maintenance schedule.<br /><br />If you don't like OHC or DOHC engines that use belt drives, don't buy one.drjimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05647484115197408897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-57530562496172899382014-04-08T13:44:14.962-07:002014-04-08T13:44:14.962-07:00Anon, the problem isn't OHC engines, the probl...Anon, the problem isn't OHC engines, the problem is timing belts. There are OHC engines with timing chains. They work the same for overhead cams as they do for cam-in-block. But they cost more than belts. So cheap-ass manufacturers use the belts instead. <br /><br />The Pentastar engine in my Jeep is OHC, but uses timing chains and hydraulic valve lash adjusters so there's nothing to change out every 90,000 miles and nothing to adjust. That's how you do it right. If Chiseler can do it, I have no idea why assholes still insist on doing it the half-ass way, other than that the half-ass way saves them a few dollars over doing it right.<br />BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-79679186864065644562014-04-08T08:35:22.476-07:002014-04-08T08:35:22.476-07:00Had that happen to me on my 1975 VW Dasher, but it...Had that happen to me on my 1975 VW Dasher, but it didn't break, it just jumped a couple of teeth.<br /><br />And it happened while I was at a job site, 30 miles from the office, in February, back in Chicago.<br /><br />Had one of the other guys come and get me, and then I rented a tow bar, and used the company truck to drag it back to the company shop.<br /><br />Just glad it happened on a Friday, as I had all weekend to fix it.drjimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05647484115197408897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-75414105881520077072014-04-07T16:15:11.057-07:002014-04-07T16:15:11.057-07:00Hope you had an "Open" sign under Busted...Hope you had an "Open" sign under Busted Knuckle Garage plaque. Otherwise, she might have had to wait til business hours....Xenolithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16564452262934014420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-67792835007416695992014-04-07T12:33:08.718-07:002014-04-07T12:33:08.718-07:00I got lucky, it's what they call a Non Interfe...I got lucky, it's what they call a Non Interference Engine.<br /><br />Even if you lose the belt the valves won't hit the pistons.<br />Although while researching this engine, I ran into horror story, after horror story, after horror story about the damn valve seats dropping out of the head without warning and hand grenading the piston.<br /><br />This thing has 230,000 miles on it and runs like a champ still. No leaks and doesn't use a drop of oil.<br /><br />I have my fingers crossed.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15695733883033137146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-42697693775047745192014-04-07T07:32:32.894-07:002014-04-07T07:32:32.894-07:00I simply cannot stand OHC engines. The only applic...I simply cannot stand OHC engines. The only application I see for these are for high rpm racing engines. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-44060593604169927012014-04-07T05:04:07.450-07:002014-04-07T05:04:07.450-07:00It didn't eat the valves? That's... novel....It didn't eat the valves? That's... novel.wrmhttp://www.retro.co.zanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-21098273224603439262014-04-06T22:05:04.984-07:002014-04-06T22:05:04.984-07:00glad to hear ya got it fixed
sure wish my fiat spy...glad to hear ya got it fixed<br />sure wish my fiat spyder was sold got a few toys i want to fix up and play with<br />i lost all interest in the car when my dad died<br /><br />livin to rideAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-20086178185190131922014-04-06T17:38:39.103-07:002014-04-06T17:38:39.103-07:00It could have been worse, much worse. Good job. ...It could have been worse, much worse. Good job. My wife's car is still locked in ice. Sixbearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572224383041421400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2359657762730149804.post-62484413186109519392014-04-06T12:51:29.486-07:002014-04-06T12:51:29.486-07:00"My wife was right.", that will look nic..."My wife was right.", that will look nice on your headstone. LOL<br /><br />Oh and damn right about this 50/50 anti-freeze ripoff! I always keep one empty anti-freeze jug and mix my own. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com